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ecdak
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9 reasons you should be afraid
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Here are a few of the shocking health controls per the Chosen One: Barry Obama:
1) Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Government will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory! He will control your living wills
2) Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get (Unions are EXEMPTED)
3) Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You have no choice! Government, not you, will decide what health care you are allowed.
4) PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise Obama wants illegal aliens covered, with YOU paying
5) Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Only Americans will pay) Illegal aliens get health care FREE.
6) Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesn't matter what specialty you have, you'll all be paid the same Government gets to set pay rates-this guarantees fewer specialized doctors, mandating a lower quality of care.
7) PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing! City of Hope and other cancer hospitals controlled by government--very young and elderly, due to other parts of Obamacare, will be forced to die since they will not be allowed health care.
8) PG 425 Lines 4-12 Government mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens and end of life.
9) They will stop assistance to special needs children. Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Government will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people!
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ecdak
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9/03/2009
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I pulled these lines from HR3200 and HR956 (sorry I did not indicate which I pulled each from) and from my inital reading HR3200 is the more radical of the two while HR956 is the more convoluted thus prone to loop holes.
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Bucket
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9/03/2009
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Government will do this, Government will do that, yet Government cant do anything right. Or atleast very little how could anyone look at this thing and think.....yep thats the way to go, you gotta be freekin nuts.
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Stan
Dodge Dakota
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9/03/2009
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You gotta be freekin nuts to believe this is being portrayed accurately here. Just for one example - all non US citizens, whether legal or illegal, are getting free healthcare - right now! Yet ecdik and buckethead would have you belive that is something healthcare reform would bestow on them. Just one example of the countless ways this info is being twisted to scare people into thinking healthcare reform is bad.
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Bucket
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9/03/2009
14:12:25
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I like how this prick starts off calling us names then tries to validate what he is smoking. nice try.loser
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Stan
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9/03/2009
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I learned the name calling from you. Loser. Prick. Why bring up smoking? You and ecdik smoking each other?
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Bucket
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9/03/2009
15:10:28
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There you go... so you admit you are learning from Bucket. ok job well done, now quit following me around fagtoid! you make your affections too obvious.
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Stan
Dodge Dakota
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9/03/2009
15:44:38
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There you go... so you admit I should stay in the closet like you guys?
This must be the source of your inner anger.
I think you two are making your affections too obvious.
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Bucket
GenII
9/03/2009
16:02:36
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I have no inner anger, for i am Bucket a proud Republican, never been in the closet, if i had been i might have seen you.... stantoid. I have no cross words for ecdak.
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Stan
Dodge Dakota
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9/03/2009
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No inner anger?
Then why do you resort to name calling so often?
That is the sign of an angry person without a valid argument.
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ecdak
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9/03/2009
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I have no cross words for my lover either.
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Bucket
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9/03/2009
16:15:18
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Look up at your first post and tell me who started in with the name calling? you know they do have vitamins for memory loss, they dont work for selective memory loss though.
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Stan
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9/03/2009
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bucket is the first one on this thread to start name calling. "freekin nuts"
We see what you mean about selective memory.
Also should be freaking, or freakin'.
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pssst
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9/03/2009
16:38:54
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Bucket, you're not doing so well here. Reminds me the story of the guy who goes bear huntng - I think you know how it goes. Guy goes bear hunting. Misses bear, bear bones him up the hooha. Tries again, same result. What are you really in this for?
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ecdak
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9/03/2009
16:40:30
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poor dumb bucket must enjoy the abuse
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Bucket
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9/03/2009
16:51:41
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That was a statement not directed at anyone in particular but i could see how the word freekin nuts would apply to you, it attracted you like a rat to the pipers music.......Bucket=winner, time to move on and shred elsewhere
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real tally
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9/03/2009
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bucket=loser
you only shred by name calling, can't present your view without that.
this is what makes you a Loser.
I'll give you a capital letter for that one.
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Bucket
GenII
9/03/2009
17:37:32
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Thanks Kowi.
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ecdak
Dodge Dakota
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9/04/2009
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real tally= star of biggest loser. I love how when ppl do not agree here it is flame on. Grow up ppl. I also love how when the health care bill is put forward in plain english, somehow the words are twisted. This is what the bill says ppl. I gave you the pages and lines that this stuff is said. Do not beleive it go and look at it yourself.
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Kowalski
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9/04/2009
07:55:21
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ecdak, if you want to take the high road, why does your post above contain name calling and distorted half truths ? You say you gave "the pages and lines that this stuff is said". But you are leaving out the fact that that you embelished on those lines with personal editorial. Let's take a look at sections 4 and 5 above, that Stan objected to yesterday. The bill does not say "Obama wants illegal aliens covered, with YOU paying " in the area you referenced as part 4. Nor does it say "Obama wants illegal aliens covered, with YOU paying" in the area you referenced as part 5. Looks like more examples of you using the right wing tactic of repeating lies here.
That is in fact YOUR editorialization of the bill; and as was correctly pointed out yesterday - aliens are already getting their health care free. So you are twisting things severely to try to make the claim that this is something the health reform bill would grant them. You even know they already get that for free, as you or your buddy Bucket complained about that in off topic recently - so you are also distorting this deliberately.
Thanks for your invitation "Do not beleive it go and look at it yourself." That is what will show anyone who looks how YOU are distorting the issue here. Perhaps you should take your own advice about growing up ?
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
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Hey kowwy
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9/04/2009
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Obama says to continue your ed.--READ THE SENATE HEALTH BILL! Its all in there. Just read the bloody thing! This appeal goes for your alter ego sidekick troll....
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