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Just sad
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Kow is in a state of denial and lives in a state that returned teddy to washington for over forty years. Even the budget office washington says the healthbill is a budget destoryer. Yet kow supports it (and his shadow). He has repeatedly supported Obamas rabbied spending. (Obama has now spent more in 8 months than bush did in 8 years). Yet kow thinks Obamas spending is good. Yes kow, if you walk like a lib, talk like a lib and act like a lib, YOU are a lib. And yet , we still beseech him to read the senate bill and see the light. We still have hope he will wakeup and throw down the shackles of liberlists. No?- sad--
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Listen you immature small minded idiot
Read this, That is if you can
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The thing that gets me, They know how to comment but not read or listen. They don't want a gov. plan forced on them.
Guess what....
There won't be!!!!!
If they had bothered to listen and/or read.
It will be another OPTION!
READ = OPTION !! Means another choice!
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From Websters
* Main Entry: 1op·tion
* Pronunciation: \ˈäp-shən\
* Function: noun
* Etymology: French, from Latin option-, optio free choice; akin to Latin optare to choose
* Date: 1593
1 : an act of choosing
2 a : the power or right to choose : freedom of choice b : a privilege of demanding fulfillment of a contract on any day within a specified time c : a contract conveying a right to buy or sell designated securities, commodities, or property interest at a specified price during a stipulated period; also : the right conveyed by an option d : a right of an insured person to choose the form in which payments due on a policy shall be made or applied
3 : something that may be chosen: as a : an alternative course of action <didn't have many options open> b : an item that is offered in addition to or in place of standard equipment
4 : an offensive football play in which a back may choose whether to pass or run with the ball —called also option play
synonyms see choice
Not Mandatory !! Meaning YOU HAVE TOO!
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* Main Entry: 1man·da·to·ry
* Pronunciation: \ˈman-də-ˌtȯr-ē\
* Function: adjective
* Date: 15th century
1 : containing or constituting a command : obligatory <the mandatory retirement age>
2 : of, by, relating to, or holding a League of Nations mandate
— man·da·tor·i·ly \-ˌtȯr-ə-lē\ adverb
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Readthebill
Dodge Dakota
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9/14/2009
17:06:43
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The senate bill has a section on how once the bill is enforce, any change to your health insu. will force you to the public healthcare plan. This includes any coverge changes and cost changes. It is geared to kill private insur. companys and force the public progam to grow till its the ONLY plan. This pattern of takeover has been demenstrated time and time again by the federal goverment. You need to read the history of your own goverment instead of listoning to only lib talking points. I recommend the congressional record to find out what your weakass rep. is really voing for.
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Just sad
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17:35:23
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repubs. tryed to put in an ammendment will the clear wording that illegals would NOT get covered by the bill. It was voted out by the dems. Bipartisonship? Repubs. tryed to include an ammendment with clear wording that healthbill money would not be used for abortions. The dems voted it out..and yes, you will have a choice-at first! Then the rest of the bill kicks in and you will be forced into public care. Its in the bill! And let us not forget that obamas health adviser has written long and hard for the rationing of healthcare to unproductive members of society. His science adviser has for years avocated for population reduction, including forced abortions and sterilitions. He also believes in rationing care to the elderly. Remember obamas statement to a woman with a very elderly mother. Maybe we should just give her a pain pill..These are the people YOU trust. Incredible!
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Dodge Dakota
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9/14/2009
18:13:48
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Listen you immature small minded idiot
Read this, That is if you can
READ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The thing that gets me, They know how to comment but not read or listen. They don't want a gov. plan forced on them.
Guess what....
There won't be!!!!!
If they had bothered to listen and/or read.
It will be another OPTION!
READ = OPTION !! Means another choice!
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From Websters
* Main Entry: 1op·tion
* Pronunciation: \ˈäp-shən\
* Function: noun
* Etymology: French, from Latin option-, optio free choice; akin to Latin optare to choose
* Date: 1593
1 : an act of choosing
2 a : the power or right to choose : freedom of choice b : a privilege of demanding fulfillment of a contract on any day within a specified time c : a contract conveying a right to buy or sell designated securities, commodities, or property interest at a specified price during a stipulated period; also : the right conveyed by an option d : a right of an insured person to choose the form in which payments due on a policy shall be made or applied
3 : something that may be chosen: as a : an alternative course of action <didn't have many options open> b : an item that is offered in addition to or in place of standard equipment
4 : an offensive football play in which a back may choose whether to pass or run with the ball —called also option play
synonyms see choice
Not Mandatory !! Meaning YOU HAVE TOO!
From Websters
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* Main Entry: 1man·da·to·ry
* Pronunciation: \ˈman-də-ˌtȯr-ē\
* Function: adjective
* Date: 15th century
1 : containing or constituting a command : obligatory <the mandatory retirement age>
2 : of, by, relating to, or holding a League of Nations mandate
— man·da·tor·i·ly \-ˌtȯr-ə-lē\ adverb
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Dodge Dakota
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9/15/2009
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you can cut and paste-can you read? Do so.
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Dodge Dakota
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9/15/2009
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Here you go. Medicare/medicaid is broke..Obama care is designed to pull in new funds to cover medicare/caid till the kickinportions of the bill puts everyone into goverment care. The Baucuse bill being kicked around has a section(5) of revenue inhansments(taxes by another name). From new taxes on sugery pop, to being overweight by goverment standards. His bill makes interesting reading. He also says that healthcare should be "crammed" down our throats! So much for goverment by the people.
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Kowalski
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9/15/2009
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More lies and decietful distortion from the right again.
Can't you guys progress beyond this ?
"Just sad" makes the phony claim that "Obama has now spent more in 8 months than bush did in 8 years". That's a lot of bull. Where were the so called fiscally conservative republicans when Bush was putting us into trillions of debt in war spending ? Spending that he had no way to pay for after all the tax breaks he gave to the rich.
And why waste more time pretending health care reform will bestow free care on illegals ? I already dispelled that decitful distortion put forward by "ecdak". You guys know that is something they are already getting now, as hospitals that accept federal funding can not turn people away. That is a problem we have right now under the current system - so it is disingenuous to pretend that is a problem being caused by heath care reform.
Continual posting of these kinds of lies only weakens your case.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
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Bucket
GenII
9/15/2009
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Ok, so we've been going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, for weeks now, and nobody has changed anyones mind, i still see you as a liberal nutcase Kowalski,the world you live in is fantasy,completely fabricated by.....you. and that will never change, so shall we continue this thread that goes nowhere? I think its time to move on.
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wow
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9/15/2009
11:41:17
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Your rhetoric has despelled nothing. Repeating dem talking points as facts is decietful and tiring. .The dems removed clear language spelling out that illegals would not be included in the healthcare plan.. Why remove it if coverage is Not planned? We know the anwser. you hide from it by repeating rhetoric. Read the bill. Many lawyers on the right have read it also and say and show us that its in the wording of the bill. Repeatedly Calling us liers with only your opinion to back you up shows the quicksand on which you stand. Sad.
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wow
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Bucket- just saw your post after sending a delayed response to kowwy. You are right-kow and I are set at opossite poles. Time to let it go. bye.
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Kowalski
GenIII
9/15/2009
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And I see you guys as deliberate distorters who can't muster much of a case beyond name calling. I believe my rhetoric will dispel the distortions for those who will look at this with an open mind. If you want to let it go, you could stop your pointless posting. We could agree to disagree.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
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Bucket
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9/15/2009
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Your posting is pointless as well, you have convinced nobody.
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LOL
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wow = i love myself bucket-O-SH!T
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Bucket
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9/15/2009
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LOL= Lost or Loonie. or just plain....Idiot
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yepp
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someone hit a nerve there
you guys should stop picking on bucket
it's not nice!!!!!
you are trying to have a battle of wits
with an unarmed man
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Bucket
GenII
9/15/2009
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Nope...no nerves hit here kowalski, not even a battle.....the battles over, you lost, and you dont even know it....your like that japanese soldier they found in the philipines a few years back still fighting world war II.... now thats funny.
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shhhhhh
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shhhhh shhhh shhhh
it's ok now buckie boy
go put your crayons away
get your cookies an milk
its bed time for you soon
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Kowalski
GenIII
9/16/2009
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Just as I thought - another phony claim by the republicans. When Bucket said "I think its time to move on", what he really meant was that he wanted me to move on so the side that started this could also get the last word in. Not going to happen. Here's how that works - here in America where we have freedom of speech, I have as much right as you to present my views. I don't start threads like this here, because I know how narrow minded some are and what tactics they will employ. But I am free to present the opposing view; without someone else deciding for me when it is time to move on.
I guess it wasn't enough for the republicans to make the phony claim that the reform bill will lead to free health care for illegals; when they know that is something they already get.
I guess it wasn't enough for the republicans to make the phony claim that the reform bill will create "death panels", when those are decisions that private insurers are already making.
Now Bucket is making phony claims about when it is time to move on.
And let's not forget the baseless name calling.
Now he wants to make the innuendo that I am like a Japanese soldier ?
Just making it easier all the time to expose their methodology.
Bucket, if you need a thread that desperately where everyone will agree with you and you get to have the last word too - you might be more comfortable on a republican website. They seem to be fond of your kind of antics. Thanks for showing people your true colors.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
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Bucket
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9/16/2009
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You keep hinting at the fact that you caught me and now i am showing my true colors.... I am and always will be a "staunch republican" i unlike you kowalski, am not pretending to vote all incumbants out, i would rather eat sh!t than ever vote for a corrupt stinkin communist democrat, so once again kowalski you were sniffing up the wrong rearend and got a little brown on your nose. I could careless who agrees or disagrees with me kowalski, i, unlike you, do not count on others to help me...thats why you like this healthcare bill so much, you need help. I dont. but i wont hold that against you kowalski if your turd bill doesnt pass we could always take up a collection in here for you, we'll call it the "kowalski-can". Although i'm sure some union goof will raise a stink that i'm taking away a union job somewhere by doing this, but i'll just hire a black democrat that loves to scream racism and we'll fill yer coffers.......GIT ER DONE!!
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