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ecdak
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9/10/2009
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There are no lies from me to expose. Your behavoir of calling something that you do not like lies exposes you as the fraud you are. You are the one who is using inflamatory language and acting like a child here kowi. You need to tone it down. How can you call what I have said lies when you have not read the bill yourself?
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Bucket
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9/10/2009
10:38:59
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Kowalski, i never realised you were so sensitive.
How about starting with you? (exept for yesterday I havent been here in 4 days)
Perhaps you should calm down a bit yourself? (nothing i said implies i'm not calm.)
That's some rather inflamatory language you are using. (thats nothing you should hear me at work)
If the conservative cause is so noble, they should not have to lie to promote it.(they dont)
Lies from ecdak have been exposed.(you have exposed.....nothing.)
Inteligent discussion is the road to compromise - not lies or calling something a turd. (If you're going to blast some dude about a "comma and an apostrophe" atleast spell Intelligent properly)
Lead, follow, or get out of the way (doesnt seem to fit you anymore)
If this turd you've been fighting for soooo damm hard gets passed, i suggest you be the first in line for the "free" healthcare perk and get yourself looked at, you remind me of Barney Frank.You try too hard to put down our arguments with words like...spewing,diarhea,distorted half truths,lies,misrepresented,twisted,yet you want a compromise. a compromise is = to a half truth.Give it up Kowalski your losing in here.
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Just
Dodge Dakota
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9/10/2009
12:09:03
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Just a quick point that became clear watching the master deciever talk last nite. K-ski is a true believer. Therefor he is incapable of seeing lib generated falsehoods as lies. He believes them to be true. If his veiws are true-Ours MUST be false-he closes all openings to enlightenment. He follows one view and refuses to get out of the way. While plugging up the road-he believes he is leading...I feel sorry for him..
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daddio
Dodge Dakota
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9/10/2009
12:27:26
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Boy, am I glad I didn't start this one! What a train wreck!
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publicservice
Dodge Dakota
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9/10/2009
12:33:18
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The claims by ecdak and bucket that there have been no lies on there part bears re-examination.
So the reacap of the next three threads will prove they are liars.
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ecdak
Dodge Dakota
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9/10/2009
12:36:38
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9 reasons you should be afraid
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Here are a few of the shocking health controls per the Chosen One: Barry Obama:
1) Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Government will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory! He will control your living wills
2) Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get (Unions are EXEMPTED)
3) Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You have no choice! Government, not you, will decide what health care you are allowed.
4) PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise Obama wants illegal aliens covered, with YOU paying
5) Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Only Americans will pay) Illegal aliens get health care FREE.
6) Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesn't matter what specialty you have, you'll all be paid the same Government gets to set pay rates-this guarantees fewer specialized doctors, mandating a lower quality of care.
7) PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing! City of Hope and other cancer hospitals controlled by government--very young and elderly, due to other parts of Obamacare, will be forced to die since they will not be allowed health care.
8) PG 425 Lines 4-12 Government mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens and end of life.
9) They will stop assistance to special needs children. Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Government will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people!
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ecdak
Dodge Dakota
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9/10/2009
12:37:54
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I love how when ppl do not agree here it is flame on. Grow up ppl. I also love how when the health care bill is put forward in plain english, somehow the words are twisted. This is what the bill says ppl. I gave you the pages and lines that this stuff is said. Do not beleive it go and look at it yourself.
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kowwy
Dodge Dakota
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9/10/2009
12:39:31
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ecdak, if you want to take the high road, why does your post above contain name calling and distorted half truths ? You say you gave "the pages and lines that this stuff is said". But you are leaving out the fact that that you embelished on those lines with personal editorial. Let's take a look at sections 4 and 5 above, that Stan objected to yesterday. The bill does not say "Obama wants illegal aliens covered, with YOU paying " in the area you referenced as part 4. Nor does it say "Obama wants illegal aliens covered, with YOU paying" in the area you referenced as part 5. Looks like more examples of you using the right wing tactic of repeating lies here.
That is in fact YOUR editorialization of the bill; and as was correctly pointed out yesterday - aliens are already getting their health care free. So you are twisting things severely to try to make the claim that this is something the health reform bill would grant them. You even know they already get that for free, as you or your buddy Bucket complained about that in off topic recently - so you are also distorting this deliberately.
Thanks for your invitation "Do not beleive it go and look at it yourself." That is what will show anyone who looks how YOU are distorting the issue here. Perhaps you should take your own advice about growing up ?
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publicservice
Dodge Dakota
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9/10/2009
12:42:34
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There it is.
Irrefutable proof that ecdak lies.
So when bucket says kowwy has exposed nothing, he is a liar himself.
They can insist that is not lies as much as they want, but that will not make it so.
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Just
Dodge Dakota
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9/10/2009
12:46:06
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Just read the bill.
That will show it does not say what ecdak claimed.
He added his own improper editorial content.
And ignored a fact he knows.
That aliens already get free care.
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Yepp
Dodge Dakota
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9/10/2009
12:49:17
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"per the Chosen One: Barry Obama"
Another ecdak distortion.
The bills are crafted by congress.
Not by Obama.
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originljust
Dodge Dakota
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9/10/2009
13:46:58
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Wow troll-losing it big time...
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Just
Dodge Dakota
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9/10/2009
15:06:26
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Just read the bill.
It exposes the ecdak distortion.
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ecdak
Dodge Dakota
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9/11/2009
05:32:48
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Those that actually read this bill will see otherwise.
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Kowalski
GenIII
9/11/2009
08:27:21
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More distortion from ecdak.
For those of you who haven't read the bills, here is a link to a story that points out the section where it specifically prohibits subsidies for health care for illegal aliens.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599192145500
That will make it easier for you to find that section in the bill. And let's not forget that he is aware aliens are getting health care now; while trying to fool you into believing that is something health care reform would grant.
It also dispels another of his distortions, his point # 7. He would have you believe that the health care reform would create rationing of care that forces people to die. The fact is, that right now we already have private insurers making that decision about what care is appropriate for people. Yet the Republicans are not accusing the private insurers of creating death panels. That wouldn't suit their deceptive agenda.
The info being pushed by ecdak and his cohorts is designed only to stir peoples emotions. He has a mean spitited agenda that is purposely crafted to deceive and distort.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
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Just
Dodge Dakota
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9/11/2009
09:31:08
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Isn,t it just so sweet the way ecdak and bucket posted together yesterday morning? They remind me of Barney Frank.
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daddio
Dodge Dakota
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9/11/2009
10:06:17
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You guys almost sound like Congress. Harping over the same crap and each other over and over instead of offering up ideas or solutions. This is why government can't get anything done. There are more than 2 opinions on this.
I haven't done any research on this guy but I listened to him for a little while on Larry King last night. A Dr. Weil. This guy seemed to have a different approach and opinion on our current health care system than anyone else I've heard or read about. If ?I comne up with something later I'll post a link up so everyone can see what he's got to say.
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Bucket
GenII
9/11/2009
12:12:05
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Also once congress jamms this through you will never....ever get them out, once they impliment something its permenant, wether it works or not, its carved in stone and we are stuck with big brother forever. Since we are bickering like congress can we call Kowalski.....Ted ?
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Kowalski
GenIII
9/12/2009
08:26:35
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Too bad Bucket and those like him can't progress beyond calling people names that they are not. I am not Ted Kennedy, not Barney Frank, not socialist and not communist. When you call people phony names, it makes your whole point of view appear phony. That might have worked for you on the grade school playground, but it isn't working here.
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owww yeah
Dodge Dakota
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9/12/2009
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Applauds Kowalski
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