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Jeff
Gen II
 
5/09/2001
14:43:02
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Hey all,
I have been looking at a Vortec SC for about 3 months now. I get really close to making the call when that $2800 price tag changes my mind. I've read alot of posts where people are asking about them, so I'm sure a few would be interested. At $2800, it would probably just take a few to lower that price drastically.
92 RC Sport 5.2 3.55 Auto
Mod'ed TB and intake, Flowmaster,
MOPAR PCM
15.118/89.27
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RedDak
Gen I
5/09/2001
15:59:30
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Jeff, Ill look into it! Anyone else serouisly interesed in one?
Jonas
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Bernd
GenIII
5/09/2001
18:12:37
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The $2800 doesn't sound like the entire kit. Also sounds like the old "S-Trim" and not the new "SQ Series" kit.
The SQ Series includes EVERYTHING to install including the Crane Ignition system with Boost Retard...basically all you need to bolt on in a few hours.
They're not $2800 though...
Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged V6
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Jeff
Gen II
5/09/2001
18:45:01
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Yes, it is the S-Trim for $2645, and the V2 helical gears adds another $150 to the price.
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BigD
GenIII
5/09/2001
19:07:29
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I would be interested in a supercharger deal for my 4.7
2000 RC 4.7L V8
3.92...Mods on the way
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Bernd
GenIII
5/09/2001
19:15:21
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Does it include the injectors, fuel pump, FMU, Crane ignition system? (Basic stuff for a S/C installation.)
Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged V6
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Jeff
Gen II
5/09/2001
19:31:07
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Sounds like you want me to set up this group buy! I know $2800 is a good price, but I'm sure it could be better with a group purchase. To answer your question:
In the 50 state legal kits, all necessary components including brackets, hardware, drive, lubrication, fuel & ignition components are included in the box at the time of purchase. No other modifications are necessary. No hood or body modifications are required.
92 RC Sport 5.2 3.55 Auto
Mod'ed TB and intake, Flowmaster,
MOPAR PCM
15.118/89.27
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Bernd
GenIII
5/09/2001
19:36:54
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What's the P/N for the kit?
Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged V6
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Bernd
GenIII
5/09/2001
19:42:35
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Jeff,
The '92-95 kits are around that price. What about the 96+ kits?
Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged V6
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Jeff
Gen II
5/09/2001
19:49:45
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I dont have a P/N, but if your that interested in it, I will make the call tomorrow for you (closed at 6). I see you already have a SC, so why all the questions? Pay too much for yours? If you like, I will ask him what kind of deal I can get on a group buy, and how many will be needed. Oh, and notice I have a 92. A '97 kit for the 5.9 is $3250. No listings for the V6.
92 RC Sport 5.2 3.55 Auto
Mod'ed TB and intake, Flowmaster,
MOPAR PCM
15.118/89.27
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Jeff
Gen II
5/09/2001
19:55:17
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This is all that is listed for Dodge:
97 - 99 5.9 Dakota / Durango (satin) $3250
97 - 99 5.9 Dakota / Durango (polished) $3450
92 - 93 Dakota 2 & 4wd 5.2 EFI $2645
94 - 95 Dakota/Ram 2 & 4wd 5.2 & 5.9 Magnum $2895
93 - 95 Jeep Cherokee 5.2 $2995
96 Jeep Cherokee 5.2 $2995
92 RC Sport 5.2 3.55 Auto
Mod'ed TB and intake, Flowmaster,
MOPAR PCM
15.118/89.27
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Bernd
GenIII
5/09/2001
19:58:08
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That's the pricing from Alternative Automotive. They're website hasn't been updated in months. Vortech doesn't sell them to the dealers at those prices anymore. Those are also the older S-Trim blowers and the SQ Series isn't much more at all on the price.
Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged V6
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Bernd
GenIII
5/09/2001
20:01:52
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Oh yeah...nah, I didn't pay too much for my S/C at all. $2200 shipped to my door. (Powerdyne) ;)
Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged V6
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Jeff
Gen II
5/09/2001
20:11:10
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Tell you what, I'll call tomorrow and let you know what they say. As to the $2800, that is the price listed. There isn't any "page last updated" section on their page, sorry. Anyway, if anyone is interested, let me know. I will also find out their prices on the later models.
92 RC Sport 5.2 3.55 Auto
Mod'ed TB and intake, Flowmaster,
MOPAR PCM
15.118/89.27
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Bernd
GenIII
5/09/2001
20:24:08
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Reason for mentioning the page update is because they were contacted them several months ago and they admitted that the pricing wasn't updated.
Give them a shout tomorrow and let us know what they say. :)
Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged V6
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SLEEPER318
Gen III
5/09/2001
23:12:40
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What about the 97+ kits that have the S-Trim with Satin Finish???? i plan on buying one next month.The cheapest i can find is threw Marty at KRC Performance. He siad he can get it for $3100. Let me know what kind of deals you guy come up with.
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Bernd
GenIII
5/09/2001
23:25:20
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The S-Trim Vortech is slightly less expensive than the SQ Series, but is also more noisy as well. It's an excellent blower though. :)
We'll keep everyone informed on the Vortech buy as well.
Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged V6
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SLEEPER318
Gen III
5/09/2001
23:28:46
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I know Bernd, noisy is good! Those S-Trim kits sound do sweet. It sounds so mean with a good cam. I'd take the S-trim over the sq any day. Its all about personal taste. Later.
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Bernd
GenIII
5/09/2001
23:30:00
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Yup...they do sound pretty mean. :)
(I like the noise myself.)
Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged V6
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Bernd
GenIII
5/10/2001
10:29:18
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Confirmed with Jason at Alternative Automotive:
$3650 (S and SQ Trim) Blowers - Complete Kit.
They're website is outdated since January 1, 2001.
Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged V6
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RedDak
Gen I
5/10/2001
11:19:20
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Hey we can get these on group buy if you guys want them $3475 ..if we cant get enough then prices at www.speedtweaks.net has them for
$3550 regular price or
$3500 for members of dodgedaktoas.com or DakotaUSA.com
These kits include everything!
Tell me what you think.
Jonas Janek
groupbuys@dodgedakotas.com
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Jeff
Gen II
5/10/2001
12:00:04
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Called Alternative Automotive, and got some idiot on the phone (Jason?) that told me to call back and talk to "the boss" at 1 est. Sounded uninterested. So will call "the boss" and also call around for the best prices. $3475 too high for me, only wanting to blow $2500-3000. Will update around 1:30.
92 RC Sport 5.2 3.55 Auto
Mod'ed TB and intake, Flowmaster,
MOPAR PCM
15.118/89.27
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Jeff
Gen II
5/10/2001
13:37:53
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Ok, talked to someone at Alternative Auto that talked to Leo "the boss", and he said Leo isnt interested in doing a group buy. I dont understand why he wouldnt want to do a $10,000+ deal, but oh well. Also talked to Marty at KRC Performance. He seemed very eager to help us out. He said that we could just use his account to buy the kits, and he would be happy just making $100 (total). So for anyone seriously interested, need to know the year/engine and when you are planning to buy so he can do the math for a final price. I will call him back with the info, and set us up an account so each individual can call KRC direct for the discount. If anyone reads other Dakota newsgroups, might want to run it by them. I'm sure the more we get, the better the price.
92 RC Sport 5.2 3.55 Auto
Mod'ed TB and intake, Flowmaster,
MOPAR PCM
15.118/89.27
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SLEEPER318
Gen III
5/10/2001
18:31:56
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Hey Jeff, I have 98 318, 5.2L. I'm looking to get the S-trim with Satin finish. I plan on Buying one around June. I've been talking to Marty as well and i'll give him a ring tomorrow.
1998 rc, 318, 3.92 with plenty done to the motor.
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woodrufj
Gen III
5/10/2001
19:37:17
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I haven't heard anyone mention 4.7L yet. If you do let me know.
Jay W
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Jeff
Gen II
5/10/2001
19:39:26
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Any Vortech product can be ordered.
92 RC Sport 5.2 3.55 Auto
Mod'ed TB and intake, Flowmaster,
MOPAR PCM
15.118/89.27
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Hatchman
Gen I
5/11/2001
00:12:00
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I'm interested. Looking for:
P/N 4CE218-020SQ Supercharging System with V-2 SQ for 1997-2001 5.2L Durango/Dakota
It's for a '99 5.2, satin finish, SQ
If the price is right, I'm in.
Hatchman
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Modo
GenIII
5/11/2001
00:30:53
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What about Powerdyne's, how do they compare to the Vortec's. Reason I ask is that I know some folks have gotten thier Powerdyne with all the trimmings for ~$2200 to thier door, and you can get them without a group buy for $2850 from http://www.worldwideperformanceparts.com/cgi-bin/thatsanorder?cat|Powerdyne-Dodge_Dakota/Durango without a group buy.
Anyone want to clue in a newbie to this arena as to why to go with a Vortec instead of a Kenne Bell or Powerdyne. I know the KB has a custom fuel management setup and gives instant boost as opposed to the centrifugal's that have to get up to 2500RPM's to start putting out air. On the flip side the KB's suck gas at highway speeds from what I hear, because even at normal ~2500 RPM highway speed your boosting pretty good.
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post these questions, just curious. I'm all over buying an SC but I'm not convinced which is the best for performance vs economy for a daily driver / weekend racer.
What's Vortec's web site?
Thanks,
Modo AKA Shawn
98 5.2L 4x4 CC
K&N, Gibson Dual Cat Back, 180TS, 3923's, bla, bla :-)
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Bernd
GenIII
5/11/2001
01:11:07
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I've been running my Powerdyne for about 6 months now without any problems. Also running a modified 7-Rib 10# pulley.
I am working on a Powerdyne Group Buy as well and am waiting for my vendor to respond.
Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged V6
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modo
GenIII
5/11/2001
01:24:33
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You da man:-) Plz, I was about to buy a TB as well, I got a responce form Speadtweaks saying the 50mm was plenty adequate for my 5.2l, is this true in your opinion, or is it worth the extra $100 for the 52mm's?
Thanks,
Shawn AKA Modo
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Bernd
GenIII
5/11/2001
02:14:39
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Unless you're running Nitrous, Supercharger, Cam/Intake, or modified heads (with a combination of the others), the 50mm is more than adequate for the daily driver. The 52mm does work but some have reported a slight loss on bottom end.
Make sure that you are running at least a Cold Air Kit, Headers, and CatBack with the 52mm if you are going to use it.
Personal recommendation: 50mm.
Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged V6
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Modo
GenIII
5/11/2001
02:57:16
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Thanks, ya just sold a 50mm TB:-)
Shawn
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SLEEPER318
Gen III
5/13/2001
16:05:14
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What's the latest on the group buy? I seen no one has been replying. just curious to see if there's still going to be one. I'm ready to buy! i have a Kenne Bell A#% to Kick!
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Jeff
Gen II
5/13/2001
19:07:57
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I'm guessing there are not alot of buyers at this time. I posted the offer on dakota-truck.net and alt.autos.dodge.trucks newsgroups, but as you see no responses. But hey, I'm still in. I was quoted $3000 even for my kit without the group, but gonna wait until a better deal comes around. Until then, gonna get under this dreaded .15! Next run will be in 2 weeks, and will add an electric fan, bypass pwr steering and a/c, and take the spare and tailgate off. Any other ideas?? Oh, and gotta get some tires. They're killing my time. Gotta start SLOW or I spin...
92 RC Sport 5.2 3.55 Auto
Mod'ed TB and intake, Flowmaster,
MOPAR PCM
15.118/89.27
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Bernd
GenIII
5/14/2001
02:53:18
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Group buy is coming at the end of this month...not jsut the Vortech either.
We also have the blowers in stock...no 3rd party vendor to deal with.
- Bernd
Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged V6
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SLEEPER318
Unregistered
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5/14/2001
19:17:03
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Hey Bernd, What other brands of superchargers are you getting for the group buy?
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SLEEPER318
Unregistered
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5/14/2001
19:17:50
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Hey Bernd, What other brands of superchargers are you getting for the group buy?
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Bernd
Unregistered
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5/15/2001
00:23:28
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Vortech and Powerdyne
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Danny
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5/19/2001
14:07:00
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I have also been looking for a vortech for my 93 5.2. I would jump on a group buy if you had one. I like the idea of going straight thru a dealer, like KRC, instead of having a middleman (speedtweaks). If anyone is still interested and keeping count of potential buyers, count me in.
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SpeedTweaks
Dakota Enthusiast
5/19/2001
17:25:56
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We work with Marty at KRC Performance. If you want, you can contact him since Marty actually custom builds the Vortech kits to properly fit the Gen-II Dakota's. (Return line and all.)
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JohnnyBoy
Dodge Dakota
7/10/2001
19:00:18
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Hey I am thinking about buy a 1992 lowered Dodge Dakota that when I buy I would want to put a supercharger in it (it already has a NOS system in it...but I want to take it out) How much does a Supercharger kit cost for a 92....and does anybody know where you can get some killer body kits for the 92 dakota?
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